Things People Should Stop Saying to Artists and Musicians

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As a musician you often get hit with many commonly asked questions and statements. Many people may not even be aware that some of the things they say to musicians may be extremely irksome. Below is a list of a ten commonly asked questions or statements that have most probably irked a musician or two at some point.

1.  “You Know Who You Sound Like?”

Answer: Do you know who YOU sound like? An a**hole. For some mystifying reason, people cannot help themselves from telling musicians that they sound like somebody—even if it’s not even true or a far stretch.  To some degree everyone sounds like somebody. It isn’t a compliment. There are absolutely no musicians who like that except for….impersonators perhaps. It’s inadvertently cutting and strips artists of their own identity. All artists have influences. That’s common sense. However, artists do not compose music to become successful “b” versions of someone else. If you’re one to do this habitually—don’t.

2.  “Can You Play for My ‘bla bla bla’, [Translation: WORK FOR FREE], You’ll Get Lots of Exposure.”

This is a big one. The world loves musicians. For a variety of reasons, the world will always find musicians and artists to be cool. Strangely at the same exact time musicians are of the most beloved and appreciated members of the society—AND the most exploited, unrewarded and taken advantage of. When you are a musician, even your own friends and family members call on you to do all sorts of stuff incessantly, but no one finds it necessary to toss a quarter in your direction. It’s really kind of sick.  Whenever anyone needs any other kind of service, payment is obviously expected and inquired about—except the talented people who often get asked to get up in front of everyone and perform sometimes complex original compositions that most likely also require time devoted to music selection and practice.  Musicians are beloved, enjoyed and appreciated—but expected to do everything when asked and starve.

Businesses and institutions sustain this gross practice of exploiting musicians by convincing them to work for things like exposure. “Exposure” is a word for which people should be slapped, and then “exposed” for suggesting it as payment for good musicians or to anyone. Exposure–to whom and for what? Can one pay rent with this exposure thing? Artists need money like anyone one else on earth, not exposure, gratitude, or free beer.

Musicians—STOP WORKING FOR FREE! This is hard for many musicians because we love music and are not in it just for money. However, the reality of the situation when you become a professional is taking your time seriously. This point hit home very hard one day when I played at a fundraiser for free. People asked the invited artists to perform to support the cause and of course I obliged. However, while on stage I looked around. There was a DJ. There were photographers there. There was food and food service people. There was a lot of money spent and everyone was being paid for the service they provided—except the musicians. It became clear that the main entertainment for the evening revolved around the musicians, and they were the only ones not paid. This is wrong and it needs to stop.

When you comb through craigslist postings for example, you will see this very bad societal issue play out. People need musicians, but the first thing they cut when making a budget for music based projects–is pay for the musicians. It’s not just musicians but artists of various forms. There are online magazines doing the same thing to writers. They find money to pay for all sorts of things and websites, but budget out money for the writers giving them all of their content. Baffling as it is absurd and cruel.

There are countless postings asking for musicians to work with exposure as the payment. Musicians who are not very good, or who are young and green typically bite that bait. For musicians looking to fill up their schedules with events for social media visibility, this might be beneficial. However, if you’re doing this all the time, it probably isn’t beneficial and it is a loss of time and money. Musicians should stop doing things for free especially at events where every other professional there is most likely being paid but you. It’s a desecration of your time and worth and it doesn’t pay in the end. When you need work done, you pay a service man. Plumbers, electricians, and mechanics don’t work for exposure. People need to get it into their heads that if you call on a musician to work, you need to pay them too.

 3. “Can I Get A CD?”

When some folks know you do music, they sometimes ask of you the most idiotic self-defeating things. Interesting individuals are always asking for free CD’s, T-shirts, free entry to your gigs and free hookups from bands obviously doing music hoping for support. Like sure that’s why I’m doing this—to hook YOU up. 

The only people entitled to free stuff are press. Believe me, I’ve been on that side of the fence too and worked that angle with no shame. If you’re working for the artist in some way shape or form, being treated well is a reasonable expectation.  If you’re not press and you ask for things however—you’re missing the point. Your musician friend needs your support. Believe me, most of them want to hook you and everyone up if they could—but they can’t and that isn’t how it’s done. If you ask, they’ll probably try to accommodate you and many don’t say no. Musicians are cool like that. Regardless, your friend will just add yet another clown to “the list” and just complain about you to someone else later.

4.  “Sounds Good…”

Honesty and detail is always good when telling artists about their music. When you record original music and slave away in the studio for however long, the last thing an artist wants to hear is “sounds good”.  If you truly don’t like the song, don’t like the vocals, or don’t like any element of the composition—I would always say so. Especially if a few tweeks could turn the song around. Critiques don’t necessarily hurt the artist’s feelings; they’re tougher than you think. They might appreciate the honesty and run with it. Honest critiques help the artist get better and fix what could be improved. For whatever reason people act weird and never tell the truth to artists and musicians —as if sparing their feelings helps them in the long run. It doesn’t.

 If you do happen to like the song and don’t feel anything is wrong, there is certainly a better compliment than “sounds good”. They are creative—so be creative. Tell them what you like about it, as that always helps. Regardless “sounds good” NEVER sounds good.

 

5. “You Know What You Should Do?”

This happens to musicians and artists all the time. People see people from all walks of life doing their jobs and they are usually left alone. With musicians however, people often feel the need to offer advice and suggestions. It doesn’t matter how low on the totem pole anyone else’s job is, people always assume musicians are starving artists and that they need advice.  Who sits next to the nearest janitor or McDonald’s employee and says, “Hey you know what you should do…” If you really have some earth shattering advice or if you happen to be Clive Davis’s nephew—by all means have at it. However and more often than not artists are told to try out for American Idol, or to “put themselves out there more” without knowing anything they’ve done, and things of that nature. Artists are usually smart people. The advice you’re about to drop assuming you’re not in the industry, they probably thought of that already. Like, several years ago.

6. “Oh, You Can Sing? Sing Something.”

Oh you can sew? Why don’t you sit yourself down right here and sew me a sweater? Why do people feel when they discover a musical talent in someone, that that person is now at their service?

Understood—some artists love the attention and jump to it. Many do not. Lots of artists love to perform and put shows together. However, many of them would rather not perform randomly and on the spot at a Burger King drive-thru. If a person is a professional, they probably do it all the time and for hire. It’s no longer the cute or cool thing they used to do and they shouldn’t be badgered to do it on the spot anymore unless of course they want to, or if the person asking is also holding a check.

7. “Can You Write Me A Song?”

No. Did Princess Diana posthumously commission Elton John to pen “Candle in the Wind”? There probably are no hits or good songs in existence that someone was told to write by the person the song is about. Never ask a musician to write a song—ever—for any reason. The only time its appropriate to ask a musician to write a song is if the person asking is writing too—a check. Songs come through inspiration. The second you merely suggest the notion of the artist writing you your own song either dead seriously or in gest—you just defiled the mere thought of it permanently forever.
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8. “Are You on the Radio?”

The industry is controlled by a few big corporations and we hear the same 15 songs all day. It’s safe to say most artists are not on the radio.

People who don’t know much about the music scene or underground music often feel that most good artists are on the radio. Not so. Most of the people on the radio have corporate record deals and the corporations that own the music ensure their airplay. Independent artists still have successful careers without being played on the radio.

Some songs I’ve worked on have actually been on the radio and on college radio ephemerally, but it’s still a question that would make me feel weird. It’s a question asked by someone using “radio cred” as some sort of litmus test of how good you are, or aren’t. Even if the musician is on the radio, one should never ask questions that have nothing to do with the quality of their music, or ask questions that may lead to an awkward few seconds of silence if the answer is “no.”

9. “So What Do You Do For Money?”

This is highly annoying for a variety of reasons. When people ask musicians what they do for money, it actually isn’t a stupid question. It’s just extremely annoying. It’s also a little rude. 

I do a lot of things as I’m sure many musicians do. Some people have learned how to navigate through life wearing multiple hats and making a living. Many musicians are successful and what they do is music. However, sometimes there are musicians who work jobs by day that they aren’t too proud of. Either-way, having that question hurled at you just might make someone uncomfortable. If you must know how an artist makes ends meet, I would probably ask the artist if they do anything else and let the artist speak freely him or herself. 

10. “Is That You?”

I can’t count the times where I played people music I recorded. And after you just informed the people about to listen that this is your new track or song they light up if they like it and say something like, “Is that you?” In other words, if it sucked or was mediocre that would be completely fine and normal. If the song is actually pretty good they need to make sure it’s really done by you—like the whole song. Some people take it a step further and ask more extremely annoying questions like so who made the beat, who wrote the lyrics etc, etc. My answer under my breath is always “Dude, I am a “songwriter” and yes, I wrote the f&*(ing song.”

In an indirect way it still is a compliment and I do get it. It’s just annoying when it happens a lot. However, when people are sharing their music which is a huge part of someone’s heart, soul, and hard work, one shouldn’t be quick to assume they’re just pulling your leg. 

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The aforementioned sentiments is what many of your musician friends may have been thinking at one point or another in response to something said to them. Let this blog serve as a PSA on their behalf. In general, be supportive to your musician buddies. It’s courageous and commendable when people put themselves out there. Most of them won’t hound you for anything but it’s cool to help them out if they are following their heart. If you haven’t already, go to a show, purchase a download, and show them love for what they do from time to time. For most it isn’t easy but things are awesome when folks have your back. And definitely try to avoid saying ANY of the questions above if you can help it.

 

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11 Comments

  • Antoine Hepkins says:

    Last time someone asked me to play “for exposure” I asked if I could kick them in their backside repeatedly and as hard as I could, thus returning the favor as they also would be gaining “exposure” at the local Emergency Room. I do not recommend this tack with all parasites but this certain individual has successfully avoided me for 5 years (this is an amazing feat for a small town).
    “Pay to Play” is another side of that coin: the first time it was presented as an option (regarding myself) the authorities were summoned to “escort” me “off the premises”.
    The community at large fully understand that I completed the 8th Grade years ago and expect to be paid for my work.

  • Denzlebop14 says:

    Very funny and very true. Unfortunately very true about non payment issues. Theyre always trying to screw musicians and take advantage. People who don’t do anything find it easy to do

  • Antoine Hepkins says:

    First live gig I ever played should have taught me everything; we PACKED the place -at least 60 “patched” members of a local “Motorcycle Club” not to mention all of our friends (the place “seated” @50). When we went to get paid the Bar Owner started pissing and moaning about her bad luck: our crowd “wasn’t drinking”, her Aunt Tillie was sick, her goldfish drowned, her feet ached, etc.
    We settled for $50 instead of the $350 we agreed to.
    Later that year I “dated” her daughter who told me that the night that we played was the best night that place ever saw. Disgraceful!!!! Now I understand why Chuck Berry (to this day!!!) shows up at every gig with a gun and a briefcase.

    • Dru Hepkins says:

      Hey there Twan,

      Sounds like a very typical tale. The problem here is that musicians tend to be real folks who are usually innately cool folks. However, when it comes to money and business, you totally have to use a different part of the brain and not be emotionally derailed by ANYTHING. The electrician doesn’t say “ah hell pay me next week for half the amount”, after everything was agreed upon and understood and you called the man out. It’s business. I finally learned that after enough episodes in my life like yours lol.

      • Antoine Hepkins says:

        Dru,

        This is true. Back then (with the adrenaline still running) we were happy for the chance just to get up there and play. Shortly after we realized that getting “beat” was commonplace we became associated with a gentleman whose brain was not wired like ours. Looking back I think there were a lot of loose wires in his brain – he didn’t like to be toyed with (I saw him knock out 4 guys on a Brooklyn street for inadequate respect). Getting paid our fair share ceased to be a problem.
        This man has achieved great success in the business world.

  • Dillon says:

    Oh yea, I totally been down this road before. But here’s the problem, there are always young and green morons who think it maybe worthwhile to hoar themselves out until they finally learn after chasing their tales. By that time its too late. These establishments just wait for the next batch of idiots. No musicians should ever work free.

    Nowadays establishments work backwards. They should work with local talent and audition good bands and give them a chance. Everyone is just so fucking greedy now and they want every band to already have a huge following, but how are bands ever gonna get a following when bands are not only not paid, but basically asked to be club promoters too and guarantee back to the bars? This is why the music scene is dead. Too many spiritless greedy suits with no passion in the way. A punk scene like the 80s for example, will never happen now.

    • Dru Hepkins says:

      Hey Dillion,

      Your sentiments are painful but very true. I agree with you that establishments should audition bands and allow good bands to play, and then the establishments can become known for always having great bands—and then it WILL attract greatful people and music lovers. Nowadays–they don’t care if the band is crap, if they bring people they don’t care.

      I attended an event once where the girl was terrible with a typical pop/r&b thing that was very mundane—BUT it seemed like she had half her family there and people with merchandise and all this crap buying into it like a business, even though the music was suffering. This is where we are now. Shame.

      Thanks for coming by!

  • Elizabeth Santamaria says:

    Hi Antoine Hepkins! I have many musician friends that have been through similar scenarios. It’s such a shame that so many restaurant owners will hire musicians and offer musicians an agreed upon fee and if they have a slow night they wiggle their way out of paying the agreed amount. Or so many times a venue owner will insist that a gig will be paid only if the musicians fill up the bar and or restaurant. Doesn’t seem fair. Does the cook get paid only if the piano player gets a standing ovation? It’s so sad that people don’t seem to realize that music is often just as important if not more important than the menu. At least if the food is mediocre the music will provide a pleasing ambiance and make for a better experience. I try to put money in the tip jar whenever possible. You guys deserve it!

    • Antoine Hepkins says:

      Hey Liz! What’s sad (brilliant in retrospect) is that some of the members in the band I was in weren’t quite “right” and some of us were very destructive. We also could pack any place on the North Shore. As word of our “after-gig” behavior became known Bar Owners were keen to pay us and send us on our way.
      This was not done by design.
      That was all years ago; I have no patience for assholery these days.

  • Elizabeth Santamaria says:

    Hey Dru! Thanks for yet another innovative blog. Hopefully one day all musicians will gain the respect they deserve.

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